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You know, that might have been more shocking had I not already seen dozens of fic in which the exact same thing happened. So I'd like to take a moment to point out a few plot holes:
1 - Shooting Peter wouldn't actually kill him. Seems like the best plan to me.
2 - Peter can fly. On his own, without Nathan's help.
Also:
3 - Fallout
4 - EMP. There should be planes falling from the sky.

Yes, yes, I know it wouldn't be so beautifully tragic if they paid attention to these things, but I like my shows to work for their angst.

The final minute was certainly unexpected, but I'm not all that interested in this apparent new direction. We'll see when the new season starts up if I want to follow it.

At least we finally know what Peter's power is, thanks to Mr. Deveaux. He has the power of heart. (Yes, that sound you hear is the sound of me rolling my eyes.)

Date: 2007-05-22 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tirtzah.livejournal.com
1. Shooting Peter at point blank range in the back of the skull (as they discussed a few episodes ago) could probably kill him if it destroyed enough of his brain, which is the source of the powers. No brain, no regeneration.

2. This bugged me a bit but I think the idea is Peter was overloading and losing control of all the powers he'd accumulated and he couldn't manage to fly away on his own. (Would have liked to have seen him try though.)

3. + 4. Science and this show are like unmixy things. I gave up on them ever getting anything right in the pilot when Mohinder asserted that human beings only use 10% of their brain. Completely false. A myth that continues to be propagated by superhero shows (see also: The 4400).

I totally called the Nathan flying off with Peter thing in the car on the way to a Heroes viewing party. I refuse to believe that either character is dead until I see a corpse (yeah, I know vaporized, still won't buy it). I can't see them really killing off two of their best actors. o_O

Date: 2007-05-22 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivy03.livejournal.com
As for 1, I agree that this makes sense, but I still don't think the show was explicit enough about it. We're not even sure that Claire would die if you removed her brain. For most of the series, this was the assumption because we assumed Sylar could kill her. But, we then go to the future where Claire is supposed to be dead and she isn't. They do a hand-wavy thing to say that Peter saved her, but it's unclear. She could have survived Sylar's attack. In any case, there's been no convincing evidence that brain removal would kill her.

And (I know, stop thinking about the science) despite the fact that Sylar gains powers by removing brains, Mohinder keeps insisting that the power is in their DNA, which means it's not just in their brains. It's the medichlorians!! That's it!!

In conclusion, my point is that I shouldn't have to do this amount of flaily rationalization for the events in a show to make sense. Shows, especially ones like this that rely so heavily on all the pieces fitting together, should not require reams of fan wank to dig them out of logical holes.

Date: 2007-05-23 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tirtzah.livejournal.com
I guess it's because I've seen a lot of the behind the extra stuff like the commentaries and interviews where they noted that if Claire's brain was destroyed or if she stayed with something lodged in her brain too long she would die (several days I'm guessing). I do agree they should have made this clearer on the show so we wouldn't have these questions. (I think she could only survive Sylar's attack if she was forwarned or he could only kill her if he knew her ability well and knew to just cut her skull/kill her as soon as possible so she'd stay down while he got at her brain.)

Oh god medichlorians! >_< *shakes fist and George Lucas* Maybe the trait for powers is genetic but the specific power is determined in the brain? (I know, don't try and apply logic.)

I agree about the amount of fanwank required. I'm hoping they'll manage to improve this next season.

Yeah [livejournal.com profile] mclittlebitch and I were speculating on that Peter/Nathan idea yesterday, but I'm selfish and I want Nathan still alive and well. Cause I want some "Claire's two dads" scenes between him and Mr. Bennet. (Noah! Eee! I'm such a Mr. Bennet fangirl.)

Date: 2007-05-22 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivy03.livejournal.com
As for killing Nathan and Peter, I've seen some fantastic speculation over in [livejournal.com profile] linaerys's journal that Peter absorbed Jessica's share-body-with-psychotic-dead-sibling power and Nathan will die but end up in sharing Peter's body. This would be a bizarre direction for the show to take, but oh-so-very amusing.

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