new hires keep leaving, is work becoming colder and less personal, and more
Jul. 3rd, 2025 04:03 am![[syndicated profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/feed.png)
It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…
1. Our new hires keep leaving, and I’m worried people think it’s because of me
The team I work on is going through a period of transition right now, with several people on our team leaving within a short space of time. I am currently an assistant and recently interviewed for the position of supervisor. I didn’t get the job and, while I respect the decision of my manager, I am disappointed and the team are aware of this. Part of the feedback was a concern that my communication style may come across as too negative, which I am trying to be more aware of in the workplace.
We’ve had some new assistants join the team recently and within a few days of starting the job, they’ve made the decision to leave (all independently — they’ve never met each other). I think this has been due to their expectations of the job not meeting the reality. I really enjoy welcoming new people to the team and helping them to feel comfortable, and it’s one of the few opportunities I can use to practice my supervisor skills. I’ve been extra conscious of my communication style and what I’m telling them about the job so they don’t feel overwhelmed. As my interactions with these new hires are one-to-one, my managers rely on feedback from the rookies to determine if they’ve had a good experience. I’m concerned with this current trend that my managers might think that I’m scaring them away or warning them that they should look elsewhere (I’m not — aside from my recent disappointment, I’m quite happy on the team despite our challenges of being understaffed). I think our problem is more likely to be that we’re not presenting the job accurately during the hiring process or not screening candidates as effectively as we could be.
Am I overthinking this, or is there a chance that I’m starting to be seen as the Office Villain? If this requires a change from me, do you have any thoughts regarding what to say when raising this with my manager?
If you’re the person working most closely with the new hires, it is possible that your manager will wonder if something is happening in those interactions that’s driving people off — not necessarily that you’re badmouthing the job, but something (in particular, since she told you that you might come across too negatively, she might think that’s part of it). That doesn’t mean it’s really the case, or even that your manager will conclude that — but because it’s unusual to have multiple new people quit a job within a few days of starting it, it’s not unlikely that your boss would at least consider the possibility as she tries to figure out what’s going on,
The best thing you can do is to get out of ahead of it by raising it with your manager yourself. For instance, you could say, “I’ve been thinking a lot about what’s behind our losing X new people so quickly. I’ve really worked hard to welcome them and help them feel comfortable and to be excited about being here, so I don’t think it’s the training experience. But I do think it could be that we’re presenting the job as X during the hiring process and not preparing them for Y, and it might help to be sure people have a really clear understanding of what the work will be like before they come on board.”
2. My manager denied my time off for a reason our company later overruled — but she never came back and told me
I have been at my provincial government for six months after working as a student intern for them for several summers before. Unbeknownst to me, the union I joined has been in negotiations with our government for about a year, and we recently held a 91% strike vote (which is amazing, no issues with that or my union whatsoever!).
However, because of the strike vote (meaning we could strike any time within the next 120 days) management instituted a policy that no vacation leaves were to be approved for anyone until negotiations were finished and there was no possibility for a strike. I approached my manager, Anna, a month ago asking for time off later in the summer, she informed me of this policy, I accepted I wouldn’t be able to get away this summer, and all was well.
However, I have been informed by my former manager (from when I was an intern), Carol, that this policy was rescinded some time ago (about two weeks after I requested time off) as it was against our collective agreement. Time off becomes null and void once a strike happens, but cannot be denied prior. A message from higher-ups went around to all the managers in my department about the decision, and Anna and other managers were supposed to inform us and start allowing time off requests. Carol looked to see if the message was ever sent in an email that she could forward to me, but apparently it was only sent via Teams, which in our org deletes messages after 24 hours.
No one in my working unit was ever informed of this change, even though other units were. I’ve spoken with some of my coworkers, and apparently this is par for the course for Anna. She had only been in a management position for a few months before I joined the team, and apparently there were some politics that involved her getting promoted over a more suitable candidate because of favoritism from higher-ups. I can’t really speak to this as I wasn’t there, but I have definitely noticed that I have to doublecheck things she says as her information has repeatedly been wrong and against our policies.
I am not sure if Anna hasn’t informed my team because she forgot, or because she deliberately wants to withhold information from us. The rest of my team seems to think it’s the latter. I obviously want to take the time off, but I’m not sure how to approach her about this. I’ve tried to find somewhere to “organically” come across the information so I can approach her with it as though she just missed it and I can bring it to her attention, but I have been unable to do so. Is there a way I can diplomatically ask her about why the information was withheld?
The most diplomatic approach is to frame it as an oversight: “When I originally asked for the first week of August off, you didn’t think you could approve it because of the possible strike, but since then the company apparently clarified that they wanted to handle time-off requests normally, because of our collective agreement. Okay for me to submit a new request for the time since that’s been changed?”
You’re not getting into why she withheld the info (which was maybe intentional or maybe wasn’t), just asserting your understanding that the prior reason is no longer in effect. If that doesn’t resolve it, talk to your union about enforcing the collective agreement.
3. “Out of the office until date X”
If someone says they are out of office until Date X, does that mean they are returning on Date X, or the next day? I have seen people use it both ways and it’s confusing.
People do use it both ways, and it is confusing. Technically “out of the office until July 10” should mean “back in the office on July 10,” but a lot of people use it mean “out through July 10.” People could clarify by adding “returning on (date)” but they often don’t.
4. Is work becoming colder and less personal?
I have a question about workplace norms over the last 20+ years that I wondered if you could comment on: do you think business has gotten much less personal and much more cold? Less sexual harassment and happy hours and having your boss over for dinner, more layoffs with no notice, less likely to give the job “to someone who needs it” vs. the best qualified person (e.g. not lay off the cancer patient or new mom.)
Obviously this is both good and bad, as my examples show. But is this a real trend or am I cherrypicking from a sample of “me and my friends”?
Those aren’t the examples I’d choose to illustrate it (obviously less sexual harassment is not “more cold,” and it’s always been pretty common to do layoffs without notice, often using severance in lieu of notice) but I agree with you that work has moved toward feeling less personal. Some of that is coming from more employers moving toward caring about the bottom line at the expense of nearly anything else, and some of it is workers responding to that overall trend by detaching a bit on their own sides (but there’s no question that it started on the employer side).
5. Should I tell my company that our EAP wasn’t helpful?
I recently have been going through the aftermath of a death in my close family and reached out to my employee assistance program (EAP). My EAP offers eight free sessions with a therapist, which sounded awesome. But, after reaching out, they matched me to a practitioner too far away, one inappropriate for my situation ( trust me on this one!), and a virtual one who asked for my number to set up an appointment and never contacted me after I gave her my information. I reached out to the EAP many times and was not able to get help.
My question is: should I inform management about this issue? It’s personal, but they know about the death in the family so it’s not too sensitive. I’m moving forward getting support without the EAP. But other people going through hard things might not have that option and we deserve an EAP that works. Should I call it out?
Yes, please tell HR. They need this kind of feedback so they know when there’s a problem. If you’re hesitant to share it because you feel like you’re complaining, don’t think of it as a complaint; think of it as alerting them to a problem with a vendor (which it is).
Related:
interview with an employee at an employee assistance program (EAP)
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