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[ivyfic]

It also occured to me that while we've never seen anyone dial the same symbol in the DHD twice, let alone twice in a row, that's common in planet designations. (A la P3R-668 or some such.) In fact, if you were dealing with the geometric model Daniel purports in the movie, you could not have the same symbol twice in the same address. In fact, with that model, it shouldn't matter what order you dial the six symbols in, they would still designate the same planet, which is clearly not the case in the show. In the show, it has been used as a plot point (can't remember where) that different permutations of the same set of symbols lead to different places.

Which leads me back to my original statement that saying that the six symbols specify a unique point in space through geometry is just stupid and couldn't possibly work and it has to be something more arbitrary than that.

bubbleslayer has pointed out that in one ep Sam says that P designates planet and M moon, which brings me back to the original hypothesis that the designations are like normal astronomic designations and have nothing to do with the gate. But it leads me to two questions. One - do they know before they dial where the wormhole will go (there is evidence to support this)? And two - do they know in advance whether it will be the planet or the moon with the gate? Unless the Abydos cartouche specifies this for the gate addresses, I don't see how they could, and if they don't, they wouldn't be able to name the planets/moons with those designations.

I guess my whole point is that it's just so elegant if the planet designations are the gate addresses, and since there are 36 symbols on the gate and 6 digits in the planet designations there's no reason why that shouldn't be how it works. So I'm going to say that that's how the SGC's assigning planet designations. lalalalalala! Can't hear you!

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[justcomeinalone.livejournal.com]

A) Minions can be bought off with chocolate. Or twizzlers. Everyone loves twizzlers (except the black ones).
B) He has to SEE ME before he uses hand-glowy-death-thing!

And yes, that scene in Constantine is EXACTLY what I was talking about (nevermind that I also thought it was kinda crap motivation and basically implied that anyone in this world who had a near-death experience automatically got the power to see spirits and the like). Even in the movie, it didn't make sense for the character. He's so closed about a lot of other things and more prone to sarcasm than telling anyone a straight answer, why would he decide to trust her at that moment?

Yes, I am so shocked Daniel is your fave. Seriously, jaw on the floor. Don't know how it could be.

But yeah, I also dug that about Daniel. All about the guy who can look at a situation and be like "Okay, this is just a puzzle. Give me five minutes and some quiet." One of the reasons why I dearly love the Doctor and Batman.

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

For Constantine - I don't think they ever imply that the ability to see angels/demons came from near-death experiences. John was born with it, as was Angela, though she had suppressed hers.

Here's my rationalization for him spilling his guts to Angela, since I find that terribly out of character, too. In my mind, he hasn't told Chas or his other associates that. I can't see John opening up to people about the fact that he hates God because he's going to go to Hell. It seems Midnite knows, but Midnite could have found out from his other connections. Anyway. John tells Angela because:
1-He is about to die.
2-He'd probably like to get laid before he dies, and there's nothing like a healthy helping of pity to increase the likelihood of that.

I also love the Batman. Again - surprising? No. Especially when he's being played by Christian Bale.

[justcomeinalone.livejournal.com]

Perhaps I misremembered the explanation. It's been a while since i saw the movie and I only saw it once.

Reason #2 works for me.

Hehehehe. Ze women love ze batman (especially with Bale at the helm). I am such a Batman-fanatic & know far too much about him (I can tell you the date & time his parents died).

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

I can tell you the date & time his parents died
Ah, but which continuity?

[justcomeinalone.livejournal.com]

Actually, both pre and post-crisis (as well as post-infinite crisis) the time and date have remained the same. June 26th 10:47 pm. In fact, when Batman opened the lock/door to the Cave behind the grandfather clock in his mansion, he first had to set the clock counter-clockwise until it hit 10:47 pm, after which he had to pull at a lever. He knows the exact time because his father's wrist-watch cracked.

But yeah, that's only comic continuity. Movie/animated, couldn't tell ya. I mean,in the movie he left Die Fliedermaus as opposed to The Mark of Zorro, so who KNOWS what time they left.

Oh, god i'm sad .... :-P