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I just realized what the relationship between Pepper Potts and Tony Stark reminds me of. Zoe and Mal.

Date: 2008-05-07 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justcomeinalone.livejournal.com
I guess chauffuer Happy Hogan would be Wash then. They are both the funny guys who get the girl later themselves.

Date: 2008-05-07 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gryphonrose.livejournal.com
Yeah, I can work with that.

Date: 2008-05-07 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivy03.livejournal.com
Yeah--it's the whole she's devoted to him but it can't work out romantically thing. The only time I've seen that work on screen is Mal and Zoe--most of the time romance is used as a shorthand for any sort of emotional connection between two characters.

Date: 2008-05-07 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
There's more romance between Pepper and Stark than Zoe and Mal. There's still a question of will-they-go-there whereas with Zoe and Mal it's a definite no-they-won't.







(And, er, all the way down here, but: is there more meta and/or other writing to come from this or just a general observation? Because I'd be behind that. Totally ^.~)

Date: 2008-05-07 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivy03.livejournal.com
See, I liked the movie. That usually doesn't lead to meta. ... It leads to fic.

I see Pepper and Stark as Zoe and Mal might have been when they first got the Serenity, before Wash. In other words, I see Pepper and Stark getting to a point where there is no romance vibe where everyone thinks there should be, though he still depends on her and she's still devoted to him.

Date: 2008-05-07 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
See, I liked the movie. That usually doesn't lead to meta. ... It leads to fic.

Um, kinda what I was hoping with the "other writing" comment. I dunno what's happened to me, but I get incredibly embarrassed about things that I want fic for. I think I spent too much time getting heckled for writing Blade stuff. But if you will write it, I'll definitely read it. The post-credits scene made me veer into cross-over territory and I went squee-splode.

I see Pepper and Stark as Zoe and Mal might have been when they first got the Serenity, before Wash. In other words, I see Pepper and Stark getting to a point where there is no romance vibe where everyone thinks there should be, though he still depends on her and she's still devoted to him.

It would take a better, stronger actress than Gwyneth Paltrow to make that stick, though. I could see it, character-wise, since he's an ass and she's not ready to put up with 100% of his personal and professional bullshit 24-7 (any more than she already does; how many hours does she work for him a day/week/month/year?). But I don't see that she entirely has the will power to overcome attraction to him whilst her job is centered on him the way Zoe does. Zoe sticks with Mal out of loyalty, but they also understand the universe in similar ways that few others do. It's as much by choice as by lack of better options (or the other way around, whatever). I don't see that rarity in the movie except for the fact that he doesn't have any friends other than her and Rhodey. She could get a better job and have friends (she seems to know enough people at the party to panic when dancing with her boss).

Date: 2008-05-07 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Also, how stupid am I that I sat through the whole damn movie going, "Jeeze, 'Pepper Potts' is needlessly alliterative."

Not until just today while perusing some Doctor Who stuff did I have the lightbulb moment over how truly awful that name is.

Date: 2008-05-07 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckro.livejournal.com
In the original comics, "Pepper" is a nickname. Her first name is Virginia.

Date: 2008-05-07 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I got that, but "Pepper" as a nickname? Ugh.

Date: 2008-05-07 11:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dotfic.livejournal.com
Look! Someone on my own flist wrote Tony/Pepper.

Now I wanna write some (and sorry, I gotta agree with [livejournal.com profile] trinityvixen -- Zoe/Mal was always a big NO for me, I loved their interaction but didn't see it as sexual or romantic. But Tony/Pepper is.)

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