Captain America
Aug. 11th, 2011 11:33 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ivyficJust watched Captain America, finally! So before I read all the reaction posts I tagged...
First let me say that I'm not really a fan of WWII films (Indiana Jones excepted), particularly the way Americans mythologize it, and this film? Holy cow. They actually had people unironically riding A-bomb equivalents a la Dr. Strangelove. You know, there was a force in WWII with a super secret science division devising a way to wipe cities off the map from a distance. Us. And we actually did it. So. I think this movie encapsulates what Europeans think is wrong about how Americans view the war.
That being said, I liked it. I was not enthralled by it, and, for all its flaws, I think I had more fun at Thor, but I liked it.
- Brilliant move making Captain America a piece of propaganda. Cause, you know, he is. That was some meta shit going on right there.
- Who was the dude with the bowler hat and the Victorian beard? I'm assuming he's a character in his own right, cause otherwise that was really odd.
- For all the Howard Stark call out was fun, I had some problems with it. Basically they were making him Tony Stark but not. A) You do not get a man like Tony Stark from a man exactly like Tony Stark. Someone that rebellious comes from someone hella strict. B) I have a problem liking Howard Stark because he is going to be responsible for building the global arms dealing empire that Tony feels so guilty about. And you can push blame onto Obadiah Stane, but the more you make Stane culpable, the more ineffective you make Howard. I'm sure someone with comic book knowledge will tell me how this is exactly how Howard is in the comics, but to me, it seemed like they were trying to treat Howard and Tony like the same character, and without getting the intervening period where we see how Howard got to where Tony ended up, it felt cheap to me.
- Chew that scenery, Hugo Weaving!
My final thought: The last five minutes of that movie were the first five minutes of the movie I'd rather have seen. And I don't mean the Easter egg/trailer. I know Cap's coming back in Avengers, but that won't be his story, and I freaking love lost in time stories and want the whole movie to be about that. (I'm anticipating that the Avengers will be a sprawling mess, because it is practically impossible to tell a good story with that many main characters. I give you Spider-Man 3.) (By the way, do you ever wonder about the options contracts they must have with all their stars, to build up a movie universe like this? Starting with Iron Man in 2008!) So if anyone has lost in time fic to recommend, gimme.
Also, saw the trailer for the new Spider-Man and um... Really? He has the Cullet! It's Twilight-Spider-Man.
First let me say that I'm not really a fan of WWII films (Indiana Jones excepted), particularly the way Americans mythologize it, and this film? Holy cow. They actually had people unironically riding A-bomb equivalents a la Dr. Strangelove. You know, there was a force in WWII with a super secret science division devising a way to wipe cities off the map from a distance. Us. And we actually did it. So. I think this movie encapsulates what Europeans think is wrong about how Americans view the war.
That being said, I liked it. I was not enthralled by it, and, for all its flaws, I think I had more fun at Thor, but I liked it.
- Brilliant move making Captain America a piece of propaganda. Cause, you know, he is. That was some meta shit going on right there.
- Who was the dude with the bowler hat and the Victorian beard? I'm assuming he's a character in his own right, cause otherwise that was really odd.
- For all the Howard Stark call out was fun, I had some problems with it. Basically they were making him Tony Stark but not. A) You do not get a man like Tony Stark from a man exactly like Tony Stark. Someone that rebellious comes from someone hella strict. B) I have a problem liking Howard Stark because he is going to be responsible for building the global arms dealing empire that Tony feels so guilty about. And you can push blame onto Obadiah Stane, but the more you make Stane culpable, the more ineffective you make Howard. I'm sure someone with comic book knowledge will tell me how this is exactly how Howard is in the comics, but to me, it seemed like they were trying to treat Howard and Tony like the same character, and without getting the intervening period where we see how Howard got to where Tony ended up, it felt cheap to me.
- Chew that scenery, Hugo Weaving!
My final thought: The last five minutes of that movie were the first five minutes of the movie I'd rather have seen. And I don't mean the Easter egg/trailer. I know Cap's coming back in Avengers, but that won't be his story, and I freaking love lost in time stories and want the whole movie to be about that. (I'm anticipating that the Avengers will be a sprawling mess, because it is practically impossible to tell a good story with that many main characters. I give you Spider-Man 3.) (By the way, do you ever wonder about the options contracts they must have with all their stars, to build up a movie universe like this? Starting with Iron Man in 2008!) So if anyone has lost in time fic to recommend, gimme.
Also, saw the trailer for the new Spider-Man and um... Really? He has the Cullet! It's Twilight-Spider-Man.