you say, it mimics a realistic disaster because water is, without alien lifeforms in it, pretty damned powerful, yet insidiously innocuous-seeming most of the time. Exactly. I mean, I've been reading about things like the sinking of the Ocean Ranger, a deep sea oil drilling rig, which sank because the porthole in the ballast control room was regular glass, with no covers, and it got broken in a storm, which shorted out the ballast controls. Or there was a plane that crashed because the landing gear light wasn't working and the pilots put it on autopilot and were crawling around under the panel and no one noticed they'd bumped the controls and the autopilot had turned off. That's how disasters happen, and that's how this disaster happened, and it's far more tragic than the way anything ever goes on Trek. But then it's Trek. They don't really go for tragic most of the time. And Doctor Who definitely does.
but I could have done without the fifteen minutes of goodbyes. I agree. Especially considering that those fifteen minutes are what made me late this morning. (I woke up at 7:07 and was like, if I start it now, I'll just have time before work! And then it kept going...and going...)
Also, the thing with Jack... Okay, I get that that's pretty much all you can do with thirty seconds and that character. But after Children of Earth, he's kind of pretty much destroyed. Because he murdered his own grandson. And yes, lost Ianto. But--MURDERED HIS GRANDSON. And since the Doctor wasn't there for any of that, I would think Jack would be pretty fucking pissed next time he sees the Doctor, whether that anger's deserved or not.
So I'm going with my fan wank idea, that after COE, Jack committed suicide the only way he could, by taking enough retcon to erase the last fifty years or so. So he's in an alien space bar and a random guy he doesn't know gives him the name of another random guy. So of course he takes the second random guy home. That totally makes sense to me.
Also, is it just me or is John Barrowman starting to get that craggy hot older man thing going? Cause he looked pretty old there, and Alonso...really young.
Yeah, the making the decision after half the people had died was annoying and emotionally manipulative, but I totally buy the Doctor going why the fuck am I following these rules? I can do whatever the fuck I want! Especially since he's clearly depressed at this point, as he always gets when he's companionless.
Also, why did ten get all these speeches about how he's going to die and he's regenerating, but he's still dying and he doesn't want to die. Nine got none of that. He died in medias res. But Tennant has been the Doctor for a really long time, even though it hasn't been many episodes. He's been the Doctor for years, so I understand giving the fans a bit of closure before moving on.
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Date: 2010-04-09 07:57 pm (UTC)Exactly. I mean, I've been reading about things like the sinking of the Ocean Ranger, a deep sea oil drilling rig, which sank because the porthole in the ballast control room was regular glass, with no covers, and it got broken in a storm, which shorted out the ballast controls. Or there was a plane that crashed because the landing gear light wasn't working and the pilots put it on autopilot and were crawling around under the panel and no one noticed they'd bumped the controls and the autopilot had turned off. That's how disasters happen, and that's how this disaster happened, and it's far more tragic than the way anything ever goes on Trek. But then it's Trek. They don't really go for tragic most of the time. And Doctor Who definitely does.
but I could have done without the fifteen minutes of goodbyes.
I agree. Especially considering that those fifteen minutes are what made me late this morning. (I woke up at 7:07 and was like, if I start it now, I'll just have time before work! And then it kept going...and going...)
Also, the thing with Jack... Okay, I get that that's pretty much all you can do with thirty seconds and that character. But after Children of Earth, he's kind of pretty much destroyed. Because he murdered his own grandson. And yes, lost Ianto. But--MURDERED HIS GRANDSON. And since the Doctor wasn't there for any of that, I would think Jack would be pretty fucking pissed next time he sees the Doctor, whether that anger's deserved or not.
So I'm going with my fan wank idea, that after COE, Jack committed suicide the only way he could, by taking enough retcon to erase the last fifty years or so. So he's in an alien space bar and a random guy he doesn't know gives him the name of another random guy. So of course he takes the second random guy home. That totally makes sense to me.
Also, is it just me or is John Barrowman starting to get that craggy hot older man thing going? Cause he looked pretty old there, and Alonso...really young.
Yeah, the making the decision after half the people had died was annoying and emotionally manipulative, but I totally buy the Doctor going why the fuck am I following these rules? I can do whatever the fuck I want! Especially since he's clearly depressed at this point, as he always gets when he's companionless.
Also, why did ten get all these speeches about how he's going to die and he's regenerating, but he's still dying and he doesn't want to die. Nine got none of that. He died in medias res. But Tennant has been the Doctor for a really long time, even though it hasn't been many episodes. He's been the Doctor for years, so I understand giving the fans a bit of closure before moving on.