One of the things I don't miss about being in the beating heart of fandom is the flamewars. I was in one once--never again. So I don't really miss that I have spent the last decade *not* hearing younger fans condescend to me.
With J2 and Wincest--there was a lot of heated debate on both sides. I certainly took more flak for J2 than for Wincest. And yeah, a whole lot of the wincest, the fact that it was not an okay relationship was just part and parcel of how not okay EVERYTHING was for these characters.
I also remember there being a fair amount of John/Dean, and ALL of that was deeply and profoundly fucked up (I'm not kink shaming--I mean, that was what the fic was conveying).
(Also, it's not like we were the only, or even the first incest fandom--looking at you, HP.)
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With J2 and Wincest--there was a lot of heated debate on both sides. I certainly took more flak for J2 than for Wincest. And yeah, a whole lot of the wincest, the fact that it was not an okay relationship was just part and parcel of how not okay EVERYTHING was for these characters.
I also remember there being a fair amount of John/Dean, and ALL of that was deeply and profoundly fucked up (I'm not kink shaming--I mean, that was what the fic was conveying).
(Also, it's not like we were the only, or even the first incest fandom--looking at you, HP.)